如果雷霆当初不交易哈登为什么离开雷霆,能建立王朝么

  当本赛季威少和哈登一次次用完美的表现冲击对手时,人们很难有办法去阻挡他们。相比于曾经的二弟威少和三弟哈登,大哥杜兰特在勇士的表现尽管数据上并不抢眼,不过杜兰特离总冠军却是最近的。在本赛季联盟官方公布的MVP榜单中,威少、哈登和杜兰特多次集体排名联盟前五,这意味着曾经的雷霆三少都有资格入选本赛季NBA最佳第一阵容。
  让人不禁假设如果当初雷霆满足哈登多600万年薪要求,那么现在的雷霆将有机会创造一个王朝。当时的三少仅仅只有23岁出头,5年后他们处于巅峰时期且成为联盟现役排名前五的超级巨星。相信雷霆老板内心是奔溃的,他们失去了最好的机会,失去了创造王朝奇迹的机会!本赛季三少在进攻防守端的恐怖统治力有多强?我们一起来看看吧。
  1.三少场均轰下86.7分
  很难想象雷霆当初是怎么选到得分爆发能力如此出色的天才,威少和杜兰特的得分能力很早就被人们认识,不过哈登直到离开雷霆后才将自己的进攻能力发挥到淋漓尽致!本赛季至今,威少场均能砍下30.9分、哈登28.7分、杜兰特27.1分,三少场均合计能轰下86.7分,得分能力令人瞠目结舌。
  2.三少场均送出27.9次助攻
  威少和哈登本赛季最另人惊叹的是两人传球方面的能力,想象一下如果这三人在一队,对手将只有缴械投降了。哈登和威少本赛季分别列联盟助攻榜第一和第二,本赛季至今,哈登场均贡献助攻11.9次、威少11.3次、杜兰特4.7次,三人助攻合计27.9次,助攻次数甚至强于联盟27支球队。
  3.三少场均拿到26个篮板
  在当今盛行小球的篮球时代,三少的篮板能力甚至比许多球队的中锋都来的强,本赛季威少场均拿到10.3个篮板、哈登7.3个篮板、杜兰特8.4个篮板,三人合计场均能拿到26个篮板。如此全能的三位超级巨星被雷霆因为600万拆散,相信这会成为NBA历史上最大的败笔之一,在挥金如土的大合同时代,球队缺的不是钱而是能改变球队历史的超级巨星。
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  懊悔!巨大错估导致三少王朝拆散,多等16个月雷霆本能留下哈登?
  How a massive miscalculation broke up the Thunder's Durant-Westbrook-Harden dynasty ()
  来看看雷霆拆散三少王朝是多么巨大的错误估算
  In fall 2012, Harden still had one more year on his bargain-basement rookie-scale contract. Whoever held his rights could either agree to an extension with him that year, which would kick in for the 2013-14 season, or wait until the following summer and use match rights, a pattern that has become more popular in the last two offseasons for even maximum-caliber players.
  Either way, the new contract would not officially count toward a team’s books and luxury tax payment until the last day of the regular season of the year that the contract took effect. In this case, that meant Harden would stay off a team’s tax bill until the final day of the 2014 season. That structure allows teams to start the season over the luxury tax line or under the salary floor, as long as they shift things by year’s end. These are normal practices. In 2013, the season when Harden was traded, the Warriors and Grizzlies both made deals at the trade deadline to duck the tax.
  Those facts mean the Thunder had almost 16 months between when they moved Harden and the earliest possible moment they would lock in paying the luxury tax even once.
  As it turned out, the NBA’s financial landscape changed dramatically over those 16 months.
  In those 16 months, the average team valuation jumped 30 percent, the president of ESPN said the NBA was a “critical product” for the network and the Kings sold for a then-record $534 million, an 18.6 percent increase on the prior record Warriors sale three years earlier despite being in a small market. Additionally, the league increased its cap estimate for 2014-15 twice during the prior season, from the original $62.5 million that July to $62.9 before the trade deadline to $63.2 in April.
  在2012年秋天,哈登的廉价新秀合同仍然还有一年才到期。谁得到哈登都会同意跟他在当年提前续约。新合同要到赛季才生效,或者等到接下来的夏天再匹配合同,这种方式在过去2年的休赛期即便是对顶薪球员的续约也开始变得流行起来。
  不管以怎样的方式续约,在新合同生效的那年,直到常规赛结束的最后一天之前,新合同都不会计入球队的薪水薄和奢侈税。在这样的情况下,意味着哈登在2014赛季的最后一天之前都不会被计入球队奢侈税。这种结构允许球队以超过奢侈税线或者低于薪金最低门槛的开始新赛季,只要在赛季末段做出调整就行了。这都是很正常的行为,在2013年哈登被交易的那个赛季,勇士和灰熊就在交易截止日之前避开了奢侈税。
  这些事实意味着雷霆几乎有16个月的时间来处理哈登(交易哈登和最终锁定交奢侈税之间的时间)
  结果,NBA后来的财政大环境在那16个月里发生了巨大改变。这16个月里,NBA平均球队的估值提高了30%。 ESPN的总裁说NBA对电视转播来说是“非常关键的产品“,而国王队以5.34亿美元的价格被出售, 勇士队在三年前虽然是小球市但他们的销售收入却提高了18.6%。此外,联盟提前一个赛季就两次宣布提高14-15赛季的预期工资帽,从一开始的6250万美元,到交易截止日前的6290万美元,再到4月份(14年)的6320万美元。
  [C]PistonsCrispyBalooga 217 指 7小r前
  I don't give a shit what anybody says. That trio now with multi-year chemistry would be something the league has never seen. People say they wouldn't fit. I say they would become the most dangerous offense of all time.
  People don't realize that two of the three are GREAT passers and KD is a good passer. Two of them can spot up. All three can handle the ball. All three can score in isolation. The gravity they would each create by drawing help defenders and double teams would only make the others more efficient. There would be no let-up from the second unit because at least one of them would be in the game at all times. They would reduce each other's minute load and likelihood of injury in the process.
  The Thunder missed out on what would easily have been the greatest three-headed beast ever seen on a basketball court.
  我不在乎别人怎么说,这三人组经过多年磨合的化学反应会成为联盟前所未有的存在。有人说他们三人不兼容,但要我说他们会成为NBA史上最致命的进攻组合。
  人们没意识到三少里有2个都是吊炸天的传球手,而杜兰特也是出色的传球手。三少里有2人也能定点投篮。三少全都能持球,三少全都能单打。每人都能吸引对方的协防和包夹,这会让其余人变得更高效。第2阵容的势头也不会熄火,因为三少至少有1人会一直留在场上。在这个过程里每人的出场时间都会得倒控制,也就可能减少他们的伤病隐患。
  雷霆本可以轻松拥有篮球场上最碉堡的三巨头野兽,然而他们却错过了。
  [C][OKC] Cameron PayneDLarge20 85 指 6小r前
  Cool. BRB crying
  雷蜜甲:容我先去哭会儿再回来。
  [C]ThunderIstanbuldayim 7 指 2小r前
  Mind if I join?
  雷蜜乙:介意我跟你一起哭不?
  [C]ThunderSightedSe7en 71 指 6小r前
  pls..._;
  雷蜜丙:求别再揭伤疤了。。。
  [C]Cavaliersskakembo 17 指 5小r前
  I'm a Lebron fan and even I'm sad :( why Presti why
  即便是身为勒布朗球迷的我都为此感到难过为什么啊,普莱斯利,为什么?
  [C]Warriorsphonage_aoi 7 指 3小r前
  You might be right, but even last year people questioned Durant - Westbrook's on-court chemistry. Does adding Harden smooth things over or make their offense even more disjointed?
  你可能是对的,但即使是上赛季也有人在质疑杜兰特和威少的场上化学效应。 如果有哈登在,真的会让一切更协调么,还是会让雷霆的进攻更加脱节混乱?
  [C]PistonsCrispyBalooga 4 指 3小r前
  I think if you add Harden to the mix the margin for error is much greater.
  我认为如果有哈登在阵中,这会让容错率变得更大些。
  [C]QuickPassword 3 指 3小r前
  Because harden acted as the guy who set up durant when russ was in hero mode alot of the time and he was fine as the sixth man to come in and be a great scorer off the bench.
  因为哈登扮演的角色就是在威少经常开启英雄模式时出来跟杜兰特打配合,而且哈登对打第6人作为替补里的得分手没有意见。
  [C][SAS] Danny GreenUncle_Freddy 5 指 3小r前
  Not to mention, winning cures all. I don't doubt that they would've won a title sometime in the last 4 years if they'd never blown it up
  更不用提赢球会治愈一切。如果他们没有被拆散,我毫不怀疑他们会在之后4年里某个时段夺得一次冠军。
  [C]Cavaliersidgaff1 11 指 5小r前
  Never been to OKC but fuck that's sad as fuck about what happened to them. They tried building a championship contending team the right way.
  我从没去过俄克拉荷马城,但是他们身上发生的事真是悲剧的一比,他们试图用正确的方式打造争冠球队。
  [C]Raffaj 23 指 4小r前
  Going cheap is, in general, a very bad way to win a championship.
  总得来说,省钱争冠是一种很糟糕的方式
  [C]LakersCanYouDigit34 4 指 8小r前
  Seriously, people should be mad at their FO and not KD for leaving.
  讲真,人们要怪就怪雷霆的管理层吧,而不是杜兰特的离开。
  [C]76ersBirdRights 11 指 7小r前
  be mad at the league for forcing the thunder to give durant a 30% raise per the derrick rose provision.
  要怪就怪联盟迫使雷霆必须要给杜兰特30%的涨薪,因为罗斯条款。
  [C]LakersAmnestyTHAT 6 指 8小r前
  They had KD, Westbrook and Harden.... How insane is that....
  雷霆曾拥有杜兰特,威少和哈登。。。这是有多逆天。。。
  [C][TOR] James JohnsonJoRo_ 7 指 6小r前
  All through the draft in consecutive years.
  三人都是连续3年通过选秀得到的。
  [C]Celticsdesmedt24 6 指 8小r前*
  It is absolutely insane how good all those players turned out to be. Easily 3 of the top 5.
  绝壁太疯狂了,这三人现在都变得如此强。 分分钟联盟前5球员。
  [C][NYK] Walt FrazierDishingLikeClyde 12 指 8小r前
  Presti has quite the eye for talent. I just looked up their player comparisons during their respective drafts:
  普莱斯利的选秀眼光太尼玛强了。 我查了下这三个球员在各自那届选秀时的模板:
  Durant: 杜兰特
  & Best case: More fluid/more athletic Dirk
  上限:更灵活/更具运动能力的德克
  & Worst case: Rashard Lewis
  下限:拉沙德刘易斯
  Westbrook: 威斯布鲁克
  & Best case: Leandro Barbosa
  上限:巴尔博萨
  & Worst case: Shannon Brown
  下限:香农布朗
  Harden: 哈登
  & Best case: Manu Ginobili
  上限:马努吉诺比利
  & Worst case: Jason Terry
  下限:杰森特里
  [C]Timberwolveszachkerr 21 指 8小r前
  The Westbrook pick is absolutely incredible in hindsight.
  回过头来看,选中威少那次真是神来之笔。(第4顺位选中威少,排在前三的是梅奥,比斯利,罗斯)
  [C]WarriorsOh_no_bros 47 指 8小r前
  It's also missing mention of the unfortunate circumstances with the injuries. Who the hell knows what might have been if Westbrook never got his knee messed up by Beverly and Durant never fractured his foot.
  另外没有被提及的就是伤病的厄运。 如果威少那年膝盖没有被贝弗利搞砸,而且杜兰特脚从没骨折过的话,谁尼玛知道雷霆会是什么样呢?
  [C]Rocketsmadeitallupvotes 6 指 4小r前
  In this what if scenario, Harden never comes to the Rockets and there's no way we make the playoffs. Thus, the Beverly, Westbrook thing never happens
  在这帖的“如果”的设定下,哈登从没去火箭,那么我火绝无可能杀入季后赛,所以贝弗利和威少的那次事件就不会发生了。
  [C]OKC Hornetsdbthelinguaphile 25 指 8小r前
  And Ibaka's calf...which he came back from, but was obviously affected by.
  还有伊巴卡的小腿。。。他虽然复出了,但显然还是受到影响了。
  [C]Warriorsguppyfighter 5 指 4小r前
  They had near teenage core of four players that went to the finals. Of course breaking that up was a mistake.
  I don't blame Presti as much as the ownership group though. Presti will take the flack because that's part of job deion.
  雷霆曾拥有4名杀入过总决赛的年轻核心,拆散他们毫无疑问是错误的。
  但是我不怪普莱斯利和老板们。普莱斯利会承受所有抨击,因为这就是他职责的一部分。
  [C]Thundermalowry0124 3 指 9小r前*
  Oh for god's sake.
  Harden would not have had the room to blossom into an MVP candidate here. It would have been great to have him on the team, but I don't see how his production would have gone up much more than what he already gave us. Durant and Westbrook were in control of the offense, and apparently having to share responsibilities with Westbrook was enough to cause Durant to leave anyway.
  Besides, we had a badass team last year. One that was good enough to have a 3-1 lead over the 73-win Warriors and the unanimous MVP. The Harden trade didn't keep us from being a championship contender by any means.
  天啊,算了吧,哈登如果留在雷霆,就不会有空间爆发成MVP候选人级别。有他在队里会很不错,但是我不觉得他的数据表现会进一步提高。杜兰特和威少掌控了进攻端,显然必须要跟威少分担责任已经足够导致杜兰特要离队了。
  而且我雷去年表现也很碉堡啊,好到足够3-1领先全票MVP带领的73胜勇士了。 从任何角度来看,哈登的交易都没有阻碍我雷成为争冠级别的球队。
  [C][NYK] Kristaps PorzingisFromLatviaWithLove 12 指 8小r前
  Harden was barely 23 when he was traded: why would you think his production would not increase, even if he was the 3rd guy? The deal might not have stopped you contending, but it might have stopped you getting a championship.
  哈登被交易的时候才23岁,就算他是作为三当家吧,为什么会有人认为他的数据表现不会提高? 那笔交易可能没有阻碍你雷继续成为争冠级别的球队,但可能让你失去了夺冠的机会。
  [C]youngtrece13 17 指 7小r前
  He might not have ever produced MVP numbers there but he would still be an outright superstar. They would have 3 superstars on their team no doubt about it. He got traded AFTER the preseason, and like 3 days later had back to back 45 point games as &the man& in houston. Did he become a different player overnight? No he just got put in a different situation but he was already well on his way to superstardom in okc, just coming off playing in the olympics with those guys too. He got better because he worked on his game, not because he all of a sudden had his chance to shine.
  If he stayed in okc it would have made all three of them better players than they are now. Harden used to willingly play D over there the way he does that 1 possession a game in houston where he decides to try. Wouldve probably blossomed into a consistently great defender with having less energy to expend on offense, and to fit into that okc scheme where they were always at the top of the league defensively. Eventually, and im certain it was gonna happen at some point that year, scott brooks wouldve just put him in the starting lineup over sefalosha because that was just too much firepower to deny especially if james could play D sufficiently. And he was the more natural facilitator than westbrook so they actually worked more smoothly together when harden was on the court, better pnr player than russ at that stage already
  哈登如果留下来可能永远也不会打出MVP级别的数据,但他仍然会成为实打实的超级球星。雷霆会拥有3名超巨,这是毫无疑问的。 哈登是在季前赛被交易走的,才3天后哈登就作为大当家在火箭砍了45分。难道哈登一夜之间就变成了不同能力的球员? 并没有,他只是被放在不同的环境下,但他在雷霆时就已经走在了通往超级球星的路上,而且刚刚和那些人一起打完了奥运回来。 哈登变得更强,是因为他努力在自己的技术上下了功夫,并不是因为他突然得到了表现机会。
  如果他留在雷霆,雷霆三少就会变得比现在更优秀。哈登在雷霆时是愿意打出防守的,而在火箭他只在特定的一回合才决定拿出防守态度。若在雷霆不需要进攻端那么费精力,他是有可能爆发成稳定的出色防守球员的,而这会很适合融入雷霆的战术,而他们的防守当时已经是联盟前列了。最终,我确定在那一年的某个时刻,布鲁克斯会让哈登进入首发阵容取代塞弗洛莎,因为这会让对手更难防,特别是在如果哈登能打出足够的防守下。哈登比起威少来说是更天然的组织者,所以有哈登在场时他们三人会更加流畅,当时的哈登已经是比威少打挡拆更出色的球员了。
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腾讯体育2月26日讯 韦斯布鲁克,44分4篮板9助攻;32分14篮板7助攻;哈登46分5篮板8助攻……昔日的三少,今日一齐拔刀亮剑,合砍这样的疯狂数据。三少联手拿到122分,简直是强到没朋友。昔日雷霆三少一个段子是这样的,雷霆拥有联盟里天赋最强的二人组。但问题在于,除了杜兰特与韦斯布鲁克外,雷霆的其余球员统统都是土鸡瓦狗,插标卖首式的存在。伊巴卡如今除了传说中的“28”外,似乎已经没有太多的长处;不过一介打手;打法柔软的像一张卫生纸;至于维特斯,他的脑海里总是充斥着幻觉————巨星的臆想,路人甲式的身手。于是哪怕韦少与杜兰特合砍76分,雷霆也还是输了,在新奥尔良,他们败给了鹈鹕。二少是否心中泛着苦楚?如果看看昔日小兄弟哈登今日的表现,这种苦楚或许会成倍的放大。哈登今日狂砍46分5篮板8助攻,带队逆袭21分的分差,客场击败。与号称合体天赋联盟最强的二少相比,哈登就像是一个妖孽。当他沉迷于与卡戴珊的不伦之恋时,哈登会打出各种各样的荒诞剧本,令人咬牙切齿,恨不能将其交易而后快;可当哈登一旦摆出认真的态度,甚至愿意切换进入防守模式时,他就可以打出联盟里的顶级水准。或许未必比得上,但也相差不远。毕竟上赛季的MVP角逐中,哈登可是与库里一直缠斗到最后的。毫无疑问,如果杜兰特、韦斯布鲁克与哈登这三个人,依旧共同为一支球队效力,或许雷霆早已夺取总冠军。这可能是近年来史上,最大的假想之一。毕竟当一支球队云集了三位联盟前十等级的球员时,你确实很难阻止他们。而站在主帅的立场上来说,他压根就不需要再设计什么太过复杂的战术,协调好三名球员之间的关系,再分配好球权,就可以等着丰收了。奈何2012年的夏天,雷霆总经理普雷斯蒂做出了一个可能影响联盟格局的决定,他将哈登交易了出去。俄克拉荷马原本的三根支柱,轰然倒塌一根。这一切固然都是生意,雷霆固然在送走哈登后也仍稳居西部豪强行列,但总让人感觉欠缺了点什么。如果哈登当初愿意在薪金方面做些让步;如果普雷斯蒂当初愿意特赦,以满足哈登的要求;如果杜兰特与韦斯布鲁克当初能向管理层施加一些压力;如果当初涉事的各方,别那么倔强……或许现在,也不用这么遗憾。()扫描下载腾讯体育APP 尽享视频直播
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